By
’Tunji Ajibade
1st Person: This documentary must be grand.
2nd Person: Nothing is anything if it’s not grand where you’re concerned.
1st Person: Exactly! (thoughtful) What do you mean by that?
2nd Person: (shrugs) The same thing you mean; haven’t we been friends since childhood?
1st Person: (laughs) Right, it’s got to be grand, go viral. Fetch me 10 million viewers in five minutes, one billion viewers in one hour. You see, I’m talking about– (stops and points at the TV on a table in front of him, along with some other electronic devices) Look at those people on the streets of Ankara.

Turkiye’s President Recep Erdogan at a political campaign rally
2nd Person: Must be tourists; what about them?
1st Person: You mean you don’t see?
2nd Person: I’m not blind; Palestinians, Jordanians, some Syrians, maybe.
1st Person: I know. You don’t see the flags they carry, do you?
2nd Person: Our flag, anything wrong with that?
1st Person: So you don’t know; they’re praising Erdogan as the best leader in this part of the world, telling the TV reporter he’s their father. They’re heading towards the venue for Mr Erdogan’s victory rally too, I guess.
2nd Person: (shrugs) You too will praise him if you see him as a father.
1st Person: Father? Who says–?
2nd Person: You didn’t hear the previous Turkish woman who spoke with the TV reporter, did you? She voted for the first time for Erdogan when she was 18 years, and years down the line she still sees him as a–
1st Person: It’s the money Mr Erdogan shares to them.
2nd Person: How come he shared money at every election campaign rally? Will he share money at this victory rally as well?
1st Person: He does whatever he likes in this nation and you have to have two heads to question him and his government. Many who did are in jail.
2nd Person: And Turks still voted for him? Over twenty years in power, and now five more years. I learnt he’s been muttering to his aides since the result was announced that he won’t stop.
1st Person: (shrugs) Whatever. I’ve got to shoot this video perfectly right.
2nd Person: Don’t remind me for the upt–
1st Person: I don’t. Just help me look out for the best clip on TV to use. Look at this one here, the dancing duo.
2nd Person: What about them?
1st Person: You mean you don’t already sense the mischief we can make of that to spite–
2nd Person: Forget it, it won’t fly with your audience on Youtube.
1st Person: Erdogan mischievously linked the nation’s Public Enemy No. 1, Kurdistan’s militant PKK, to my party leader and his audience bought it. His manipulated video worked against us in the election even though it was fake.
2nd Person: Two different audiences – those were voters, your own audience is western and out there, not in Turkiye. I–
1st Person: So, what about it?
2nd Person: (makes to stand up) If you aren’t going to listen to me, then I have to go.
1st Person: (draws him by his leather jacket) Don’t. I’m listening.
2nd Person: You asked me to advise you about what is acceptable to the western audience for your documentary, now you don’t–
1st Person: It’s okay. What do you think?
2nd Person: The dancing duo won’t catch. You need something funnier to retain attention of the western audience who’ll watch your video on Youtube. You get this first video right and you keep them tuning in, eager to see the next episode. You get the first one wrong and your dream of making a career out of this is all up in smoke.
1st Person: Right, the reason I call you. You didn’t tell me why Erdogan’s edited video worked with his–
2nd Person: It did for the same reason they gathered at every political rally to listen to him. Don’t you see the huge crowd that has gathered here in Ankara to listen to him deliver his victory speech?
1st Person: Majority of them Turks.
2nd Person: Exactly. His style excites his crowd and they would believe whatever he told them about the opposition party. He didn’t have to be truthful, all he needed to do was say it and it would be accepted as the truth. But you can’t feed just anything to the western audience you have in mind. They aren’t Turkish and they aren’t voters who see Erdogan as a father. The western audience you target is online, searching for fun, for what entertains.
1st Person: I still don’t get you.
2nd Person: What kind of documentary do you want to make?
1st Person: Any documentary.
2nd Person: Then you don’t know what you’re doing.
1st Person: I do. I want to make documentaries about Erdogan’s and his antics.
2nd Person: Political documentary.
1st Person: Politics? No! I dare not go there, Erdogan’s goons will roast me like a Turkey on Thanksgiving Day.
2nd Person: Documentaries that will make the western world see Erdogan’s antics are what you want to do.
1st Person: (nods) And help ensure he loses the next election.
2nd Person: Next election?
1st Person: Next election.
2nd Person: And you say the documentary is meant for the western audience?
1st Person: Em– Ehn–
2nd Person: Politics is your focus then. You’re a member of the opposition coalition and Erdogan is a political figure.
1st Person: (looks unsure at first)Um– True.
2nd Person: Western audience won’t be the voters in 2028, remember?
1st Person: Um– True.
2nd Person: Good. Now, you can make a political documentary that’s fun.
1st Person: Fun? How can it be fun? Look, politics is a serious business. Didn’t you see how Erdogan imprisoned those who disagreed with him and forced others into self-exile? Haven’t you listened to some of the bitter exchanges among politicians, the mudslinging, name-calling, the–?
2nd Person: It’s lemon, turn it into a marmalade.
1st Person looks unsure.
2nd Person: You can turn bitter political exchanges around into fun for your audience.
1st Person: Fun? Politics?
2nd Person: Yes, make it fun. Your documentary can be a satire.
1st Person: Satire?
2nd Person: Political satire.
1st Person: I should satirize Erdogan?
2nd Person: And your own party as well.
1st Person: My party?
2nd Person: And your party’s presidential candidate in the last election. You knew them well, you were a volunteer.
1st Person: No, no. I don’t want to get members of my party angry with me.
2nd Person: You won’t. You make light of serious issues, every serious issue involving those political actors, including your party candidates; it makes your work more believable.
1st Person: Ehn-hen.
2nd Person: They’ll like it, even your party members. Everyone likes a lighter side of things. Let them laugh at themselves.
1st Person: You think they will?
2nd Person: (points at the TV) Look, Erdogan has arrived the venue for the victory rally.
1st Person: Still very far away from the podium. Now that you mention satire; he read a poem when he travelled to Azerbaijan.
2nd Person: Erdogan?
1st Person: The poem was about the conflict over the border between Azerbaijan and Iran. It has since led to a diplomatic spat between him and Tehran.
2nd Person: Check for the footage of him reading the poem.
1st Person: How will that be useful in this documentary?
2nd Person: Don’t worry. I’ll show you how to manipulate the video, make him say things in the manner he didn’t mean to say them.
1st Person: An eye for an eye; like he did to my party’s presidential candidate over the PKK?
2nd Person: He’ll come out worse.
1st Person: As in worse?
2nd Person: As in fun. He’ll come out looking like your typical buffoon, hilarious, I promise you. It’s fun for the audience. You sell.
1st Person: I do?
2nd Person: And he may like it?
1st Person: Who?
2nd Person: Erdogan?
1st Person: Impossible! He’s too serious-minded.
2nd Person: Everybody has what amuses them. We’ll try. Who knows he may even praise your political satire.
1st Person: I’ll be bombed! Erdogan, liking what makes him looks hilarious? Certainly, you’re telling me Planet Mars is one meter away from Ankara.
2nd Person: Wait and see. He’ll laugh at himself. (He stands up, pushes his stomach out, positions himself with an imaginative book in his hand and reads, mimicking) They separated the Aras River and filled it with rocks and rods. I will not be separated from you. They have separated us forcibly.
1st Person: (laughs) You know the poem?
2nd Person: (nods)I followed the diplomatic row over border area and the ethnic group separated into Iran and Azerbaijan. I looked for the poem months back; part of the research for one of my stand-up acts, you know.
1st Person: (frowns, unsure) The man will tell his goons to come after me. He’s picked up everyone who doesn’t venerate him ever since the coup happened, and he changed the law to get everyone arrested for as much as ‘insult public figures.’
2nd Person: You wanted to say, since he changed the law to become president and awarded himself more powers.
1st Person: How did you know that?
2nd Person: I may reside in the UK, but I follow events here, I’m Turkish, remember?
1st Person: Maybe we should partner in this political satire documentary.
2nd Person: Nope, I’m a stand-up comedian. I’ll help make your documentary fun.
1st Person: What if the documentary doesn’t reflect reality, I–
2nd Person: Erdogan wasn’t bothered, never worried that the PKK video he showed his audience before the last election was deepfake.
1st Person: And when asked later about it he said his claim that my party leader–
2nd Person: –was supported by militant PKK remained the same. He doesn’t care about reality. You shouldn’t.
1st Person: I shouldn’t?
2nd Person: Nope. I don’t when I do my stand-up acts in which I lampoon everyone I wish to, as you know. Create your own reality, make pun of the activities of all political players. You have the license to do so.
1st Person stares blankly.
2nd Person: You have the license.
1st Person: (with mock horror) Erdogan will seize it.
1st Person & 2nd Person laugh.
2nd Person: Intimidation. It’s part of the power game. Or, how do you think he managed to stay afloat for more than twenty years.
1st Person: I want to stay afloat. I’m here, you’ll return to the UK.
2nd Person: Make up your mind. It’s either you want to achieve your dream of being a renowned make of political documentaries or you don’t.
1st Person: (a worried look on his face) The Turkiye you left ten years ago isn’t the same.
2nd Person: (points at the TV) Look, he’s on top of a bus now, still making his way to the podium.
1st Person: The crowd is so much.
2nd Person: Until he starts talking I’ll mimic his Media Man, Fahrettin Altun, into your documentary video.
1st Person: You will, and you think it will work?
2nd Person: Start to record, and ask me questions?
1st Person: (sets his recording device and clears his throat) Mr Altun, what have you to say about the allegation that the latest election was free but not fair?
2nd Person: I would say those who say such are ignorant of the facts on ground. I can tell you for free that His Excellency the president has performed outstandingly well, and the people of Turkiye rewarded him for this. You shouldn’t forget too that the world at large has applauded the statesmanship of His Excellency. All you need to do is listen to US and UK leaders, as well as the leaders of Ukraine and Russia.
1st Person: Talking about Russia, its leader has been condemned for invading Ukraine; would you call Mr Erdogan a friend of invaders and dictators?
2nd Person: That’s a question you have no right to ask, and if you were to be here in Ankara, rather than where you are based in the UK talking to me via Skype, I would have invoked Decree– Decree– em– what’s the number of that military decree again? I would have had you taken in for insulting public figures as has been done to one national saboteur who claims to be the mayor of Istanbul. And in case you–
1st Person: The mayor you refer to was duly elected by Turks. But, Mr Altun, would you want to consider that–
2nd Person: You wait, I’m still talking. See, here in Turkiye, journalist don’t talk when a high personality like myself who has office in the presidential palace is talking. Did you hear that – Presidential palace? Look here, it’s against the decree, em– I mean law of the land for you to transgress as you did; but I pardon you this time because you are not in Ankara as we speak.
1st Person: Mr Altun, how would you react to the popular fear expressed that Mr Erdogan has become increasingly authoritarian over the years, and with the latest victory he will become even more so?
2nd Person: I won’t even respond to that kind of question.
1st Person: Very well, Mr Altun. Critics have alleged that–
2nd Person: There’re not critics in Turkiye. Here, everyone loves His Excellency and they appreciate the good work he’s been doing for this nation.
1st Person: By saying there are no critics, are you indirectly admitting that your boss has muzzled all voices that have an opinion to express about hyperinflation as well as his authoritarian tendencies?
2nd Person is silent.
1st Person: Mr Altun, you can go ahead and answer the question.
2nd Person is silent.
1st Person: Mr Altun, can you hear me? If you can hear–
2nd Person: You can ask your next question if you’re still interested in this interview.
1st Person: Of course, I am, Mr Altun. It’s been said that the targeted killing of al-Qurashi of the Islamic State as announced three days after your superior fell sick on national TV, and on the same day he returned to the campaign trail, created an opportunity for him to divert attention away from the domestic woes that–
2nd Person: What woes are you talking about? Next question.
1st Person: Your superior was seen on TV sharing money to Turks at his campaign rallies. Surely, this is a form of corruption. What have you to say to this?
2nd Person: (sniggers) A father gives his children gifts, and you say it’s corruption. How? This is the challenge I have with you journalists from the West. Let me tell you, giving gifts is perfectly normal in our part of the world. Go and ask Turks, and they will tell you what obtains in our culture that you don’t know. Next question.
1st Person: Not too long ago, Mr Altun, the leadership in Iran accused your superior of reading a poem that –
2nd Person: (suddenly turns towards the TV) Mr Erdogan is singing for his audience, sshhh.
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